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Billy Nees 12-24-2020 10:30 AM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Has anyone ever tried one of these? 83 is at 230 HP with big cam, big compression, good head ans 2 1.81 throttle bodies. I've been told that the intake is pretty bad but when you take into consideration the difference in the HP factor between it and a comparable Q-Jet combo I can't imagine the intake being THAT bad. 82 is at 220 HP with dished piston.

https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/...248877580.html

Dave Gantz 12-24-2020 12:05 PM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 630362)
Has anyone ever tried one of these? 83 is at 230 HP with big cam, big compression, good head ans 2 1.81 throttle bodies. I've been told that the intake is pretty bad but when you take into consideration the difference in the HP factor between it and a comparable Q-Jet combo I can't imagine the intake being THAT bad. 82 is at 220 HP with dished piston.

https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/...248877580.html

Is that all those things are worth? Seems like a good price. Probably even a good flip. (Work up to that $14,000 Chevy II) Plus, it has "duel" exhaust and good "breaks".

Glenn Briglio 12-24-2020 12:30 PM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 630362)
Has anyone ever tried one of these? 83 is at 230 HP with big cam, big compression, good head ans 2 1.81 throttle bodies. I've been told that the intake is pretty bad but when you take into consideration the difference in the HP factor between it and a comparable Q-Jet combo I can't imagine the intake being THAT bad. 82 is at 220 HP with dished piston.

https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/...248877580.html

How do you overcome the injector sizing?

Rory McNeil 12-24-2020 01:01 PM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz (Post 630370)
Is that all those things are worth? Seems like a good price. Probably even a good flip. (Work up to that $14,000 Chevy II) Plus, it has "duel" exhaust and good "breaks".

Hey, at least they know how to spell CAMARO! I am a Ford guy, and even I get bothered when a see CAMEROs for sale, or even worse, at a car show where it seems even the owners don`t know how to spell what the model of their car is! (Hint, it`s already spelled correctly on the cars body, take notes.) These same guys usually have an ELdobrock intake, or maybe a WALand, often with a NAWS plate under the carby.

Rory McNeil 12-24-2020 01:20 PM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz (Post 630370)
Is that all those things are worth? Seems like a good price. Probably even a good flip. (Work up to that $14,000 Chevy II) Plus, it has "duel" exhaust and good "breaks".

Hey, at least they know how to spell CAMARO! I am a Ford guy, and even I get bothered when a see CAMEROs for sale, or even worse, at a car show where it seems even the owners don`t know how to spell what the model of their car is! (Hint, it`s already spelled correctly on the cars body, take notes.) These same guys usually have an ELdobrock intake, or maybe a WALand, often with a NAWS plate under the carby.

Mark Yacavone 12-24-2020 01:44 PM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 630377)
Hey, at least they know how to spell CAMARO! I am a Ford guy, and even I get bothered when a see CAMEROs for sale, or even worse, at a car show where it seems even the owners don`t know how to spell what the model of their car is! (Hint, it`s already spelled correctly on the cars body, take notes.) These same guys usually have an ELdobrock intake, or maybe a WALand, often with a NAWS plate under the carby.

...Or they tell you over the phone they have a Wee-and intake. :-(

Billy Nees 12-24-2020 03:13 PM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio (Post 630372)
How do you overcome the injector sizing?

I don't see that being a problem.

JoeCool108 12-24-2020 05:27 PM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 630352)
Just do the math... 13.15 vs 13.45

O to P , a full pound break, thus 210 pounds for three tenths.

Ok last time I ran stock eliminator it was way back in the 90's with a W/S 1974 Mustang with a 2.3L and really didnt mess with moving classes, so something Ill have to learn..lol..

The other question is is the carb a better combo than TBI? I realize Id have to find the correct year engine, but those cars we basically the same body style for years so I can claim any year if I have the correct engine.. I like the challenge, thats why I like stock eliminator. I wonder what comparable cars in that class are running and with what combo...

Pistol Pete 01-03-2021 10:08 AM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeCool108 (Post 630393)
Ok last time I ran stock eliminator it was way back in the 90's with a W/S 1974 Mustang with a 2.3L and really didnt mess with moving classes, so something Ill have to learn..lol..

The other question is is the carb a better combo than TBI? I realize Id have to find the correct year engine, but those cars we basically the same body style for years so I can claim any year if I have the correct engine.. I like the challenge, thats why I like stock eliminator. I wonder what comparable cars in that class are running and with what combo...

O/SA i see 350 chevy wagons, 95 body style Camaro or Firebirds with a 3.8 V6,
Grand Prix with a 400. 302 Fords and these cars range from 7 tenths to 1 second under
P/SA i see a 95-96 Chevy Caprice, 283 Chevy Wagon, 3.8 V6 can run PSA as well.
What would your car weigh as a O/SA ??
I know the 3.8 is rated at 206 multiply by 15 (OSA wt break)plus 170(drivers wt)= 3260.

stock1080 01-03-2021 10:32 AM

Re: Possible new Class build - need opinions
 
Billy, emailed this guy three times, no answer. oh well. would have been fun


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