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Mike Jones 10-14-2018 12:46 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 574899)
I think that modern Pro cars and Promods are really pushing the definition of "door slammer". Don't slam them too hard.
I like real doors.

... as usual... your right Billy
MJ

X-TECH MAN 10-14-2018 02:25 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
A lot could be done but NHRA will not do it. Have you priced a Pro Stock transmission lately? Why allow a clutch less 5 speed and multi disc clutches. The engines alone are priced as much as a modest house. why use special blocks and heads ? use normal production parts. No body templates anymore. The cars look like jelly beans just painted differently. It seems to me that its as bad as stock elim. these days with all they are allowed to use. . Is it because NHRA does not want to invest the man power to inspect these so call cars ?
Same deal for Top Fuel and Funny cars going to fast and running on a 1000 Ft. track. The NHRA could demand them to use smaller blowers with less boost, less percentage of nitro, use just one fuel pump like they use to do. Less cubic inches for Pro Stock and the fuel cars then go back to a real 1/4 mile ! The funny cars (great name for them) do not even look like a car. The wings are ridicules looking but are needed to keep them from flying off the track.
Its all become a circus !

RKelliher 10-14-2018 03:16 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
I was told by a top tech official that they had a plan to save comp.and pro stock and were told they where not interested in saving them.

GATOR 10-14-2018 03:57 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
A post from my buddy Chris McGaha posted on compplus forum:
(pretty much sums up NHRA racing)


Mac4264

"Your right there is a long line of people that would love to professional race. Seems to be a problem keeping all these people from showing up like always has been. This sport has no money in it and never will. So it’s left for the wealthy to play in. But even the wealthy eventually look at there whole card and say really. Has there been people who made it drag racing absolutely. WJ is perfect example. But if he started today or even 5 years ago he wouldn’t make it.
Even Schumacher has stated he will not fund cars out of his own pocket so where is that going to leave fuel racing. Ok take money from pro stock yes they did how did that work out for them they still came up short on fields and when they did hmm wonder where that money went.
Remember pro stock guys have been called the millionaires club. We didn’t become this racing so maybe the mass exit your seeing is guys finally seeing how ridiculous this has become from the give and take aspect. But you think the nhra excutives are smart but yet they are running off millionaire customers left and right. But you need to put the kool aid down and or bong cause I’m having a hard time seeing all these people that are lined up to spend millions of there on money to race day and night 24 weekends a year with absolutely no ROI."

Link:
http://forum.competitionplus.com/sho...t=16393&page=5

Macdaddy 10-14-2018 04:25 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
The whole platform appears to lean towards a certain manufacturer these days, when the dodges gained ground in the factory supercar show, they added 50 lbs.go back to weight breaks and lbs per cubic in to at least give the other brands a chance to be competitive without a billion dollar sponsor. Make the class interesting to the point guys like the professor and the likes would be interested again. Nobody wants a race program powered by endless dollars and pointless returns. The whole problem lies with nhra and their blind uneducated changes based solely on their bottom line...,it is at this point in time that wally has achieved mach 7 spinning in his grave....

Billy Nees 10-14-2018 04:42 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Macdaddy (Post 574931)
The whole problem lies with nhra and their blind uneducated changes based solely on their bottom line...,

HA!!!

X-TECH MAN 10-14-2018 05:24 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 574932)
HA!!!

X's 2 !

midnightbluS10 10-14-2018 10:54 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
Bob Book already set up a 400ci pro stock class a couple of years ago. It folded after 2 years because of no participation.

Nathan Stinson 10-15-2018 01:28 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MAURICE BLENDHEIM (Post 574895)
ProMod is not the answer. Is it coincidental that ProMod is mentioned more now, since the 2017 closing of the Ringaling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus. The (un) class is an un-regimented Circus Sideshow that lacks a relative structure, required to enhance innovative competition. MB (opinion)

May not be the answer, but at least they have more than a full field of pro mods, and I would wager the average spectator would rather watch pro mod than pro stock.

fastlane 10-15-2018 04:40 PM

Re: What can be done?
 
Factory showdown was to be the regular guys prostock heads up pro tree all 3 manufacturers starting life as real cars. But it is following in the footsteps of PS but moving way faster to oblivion in only a few years you already have pro teams taking over, NHRA changing what is allowed from the original build and the cost to enter for just a car to be competitive is at least 200 grand plus trailer motorhome equipment spare parts crew and travel. For NHRA to even stay alive in the future it needs to come up with ways for various classes to run heads up that is what the people in the seats understand and want to see. When I started racing in the mid 60s every stock class car ran heads up against the others in there class and the winner of each class then ran in a handicap format for overall stock eliminator. And the stands were full at all the tracks and the people in the stands understood what was going on.


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