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Ed Wright 11-18-2010 10:43 PM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
Jeff, that's the SS "hood scoop" cars, right?

Toby Lang 11-18-2010 10:48 PM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 223103)
I don't get the index adjustment. The index covers all vehicle combinations (in the example K/SA) so why would it drop .05 or more?
Sorry, not understanding how that is possible...:confused:


Yes, as Ed said, the index change is only for classes that use the pounds per cubic inch factor like SS modified.


-Toby

jmantle 11-19-2010 12:42 AM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
Amazingly, I have had very little input on this subject from any fellow div 6 racers. I do think the proposed changes are a step in the right direction, please let me know what you think.
One additional suggestion I had made is to post the qualifying speed. I am not suggesting those lifting at 1000' should be penalised, just suggesting it would help level the playing field for those us who don't have a crew member to stand at the 1000' mark during qualifying.

Jim Mantle, div 6 S/SS SRAC

KingReptile 11-19-2010 01:09 AM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
283 R.I.P next year lolllllllllllllll

Jeff Lee 11-19-2010 01:19 AM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Lang (Post 223107)
Yes, as Ed said, the index change is only for classes that use the pounds per cubic inch factor like SS modified.


-Toby

Us AMC'ers aren't always the smartest bunch but this just goes to show everybody Ed's smarter than I

KingReptile 11-19-2010 01:21 AM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
Jeff thanks for the pics I have been busy sorry I didnt reply to your e-mail..

Bob Mulry 11-19-2010 04:55 AM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
As I look into my crystal ball, I can see the future.....

It's Boise or Tucson with a sea level weather condition like we had a few years ago and guess what......

10 or 20 combos get HP on Tuesday and have to live with it when you are in Div 3 or 4 at sea level in August with a 28.50 baro.......

You wanted AHFS at the altitude tracks and now you have to live with the results...
...

Alan Roehrich 11-19-2010 08:55 AM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
I notice there is nothing in that draft to address the weather conditions. If NHRA does nothing to address the problem of weather conditions skewing the AHFS, the AHFS will remain broken, and the racers will continue to be screwed by it.

It's been said repeatedly for years, in order to work properly and fairly, the AHFS system MUST correct ALL data to an SAE standard sea level day. Each Division must have its own regularly calibrated weather station, to be used at the track before and after every session, or the data collected is skewed and worthless.

If the average racer can afford a weather station, then NHRA can afford to buy 7 nice ones for their staff, keep them correctly calibrated, and have someone on the starting line record a weather reading before and after each session.

Angelo DiTocco 11-19-2010 09:09 AM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 223138)
I notice there is nothing in that draft to address the weather conditions. If NHRA does nothing to address the problem of weather conditions skewing the AHFS, the AHFS will remain broken, and the racers will continue to be screwed by it.

It's been said repeatedly for years, in order to work properly and fairly, the AHFS system MUST correct ALL data to an SAE standard sea level day. Each Division must have its own regularly calibrated weather station, to be used at the track before and after every session, or the data collected is skewed and worthless.

If the average racer can afford a weather station, then NHRA can afford to buy 7 nice ones for their staff, keep them correctly calibrated, and have someone on the starting line record a weather reading before and after each session.

Good Luck with that - I suggested that 10 years ago when all of this started & nobody listened

X-TECH MAN 11-19-2010 09:24 AM

Re: 2011 ahfs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 223138)
I notice there is nothing in that draft to address the weather conditions. If NHRA does nothing to address the problem of weather conditions skewing the AHFS, the AHFS will remain broken, and the racers will continue to be screwed by it.

It's been said repeatedly for years, in order to work properly and fairly, the AHFS system MUST correct ALL data to an SAE standard sea level day. Each Division must have its own regularly calibrated weather station, to be used at the track before and after every session, or the data collected is skewed and worthless.

If the average racer can afford a weather station, then NHRA can afford to buy 7 nice ones for their staff, keep them correctly calibrated, and have someone on the starting line record a weather reading before and after each session.

They would not have the weather stations unless someone GAVE them to NHRA and then its to much work for them to use and keep track of data. Can you just see Rick Stewart trying to use one at a National event.....LOL. He dosent like the sporstman racers anyway. They just "MUCK" up "HIS" starting line.


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