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Evan Smith 04-06-2010 07:07 AM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
It doesn't hurt anyone if you don't mind an extra round of eliminations. So, why don't we just give everyone a trophy and call it a day.

It's called competition, and that's why many of us race. There is something special about making the field at Indy. I have enough trouble going two rounds, no less eight. Sure there are plenty of hard-working racers who don't run very far under the index, but anyone can build any combination, so if you want to qualify at Indy build a combo that goes deep under the index, just like Bob Shaw does. That is not a knock on Shaw, he is obviously smart, he likes to qualify well, and he finds combos that allow him to do so.

Evan

Billy Nees 04-06-2010 07:39 AM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
[QUOTE=Mike Carr;180220]The correct option isn't listed in the poll.

3) "All Class Winners, plus Low ET Qualifiers, to make 128 car field".

So the question is, why was this left off of the poll?
It IS the only correct option!
(That is unless you're one of the CJs or DPs that didn't win class! But what the hell, bump out those old pieces of s**t!)

mannymen 04-06-2010 07:54 AM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
All run (180 quota) would definitely draw cars that would ordinarily not show up. What is one more round or racing in stock & super stock going to matter when you start qualifying on Wednesday and have to spend 6 days at a track for one race.

If Super Gas isn't filled (which it probably won't be 120/150 quota 2009) then that's where my super stocker will be at (I just need the Shipp bros help with my setup:)). I definitely can't run under enough to qualify in the 128

Heck you can skip Wed and make your one 9.90 hit on Thurs and be ready for the 1st round on Friday. That will save you a little time and money by not having to show up on Tuesday.

Bill Koski 04-06-2010 09:50 AM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
Anybody that wants an all-run field can do that!
Just go to a bracket race!

Tony Janes 04-06-2010 10:27 AM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Koski (Post 180270)
Anybody that wants an all-run field can do that!
Just go to a bracket race!

I do go bracket racing, it is called Stock Eliminator

Mike Carr 04-06-2010 10:55 AM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 180277)
I do go bracket racing, it is called Stock Eliminator

Scales. Fuel check. Heads-up runs. Qualifying. Teardowns. Class Wins. The possibility of being a DNQ. National Records.

I have had runs disallowed due to fuel and weight issues. I've DNQ'd at Indy before (2000). I've torn down for setting National Records. All while racing Stock Eliminator. Never done any of the above while bracket racing. Indexes too. In bracket racing, no one tells you you can't dial slower than (insert ET here--except for class ET breaks). Otherwise, in Stock, I could have run my daily driven 13-14 second '95 Camaro in D/SA and been OK, as long as it met the safety requirements. And in brackets, you don't have people telling you what blocks, heads, transmissions, spec numbers, etc are, and what you have to run, and you can't be DQ'd in Super Pro because of a cylinder head issue.

About the only similarity between Stock and brackets is a two dollar bottle of shoe polish.

LNorton 04-06-2010 11:17 AM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 180233)
But, seriously, who does it make uncomfortable to have an "all run" policy in Stock Eliminator at Indy on Labor Day?

Because anyone like yourself can qualify in footbrake at your local track. Oh wait, thats for everyone!

The fact is that Stock is not for everyone. If you don't strive to improve the performance of your car, then you shouldn't be racing at Indy. That is part of what running stock is all about. It is more than just a bracket race.

Mike Voth 04-06-2010 12:53 PM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
The real question is...

It took -0.900 to make the Indy field last year in both Stock and Super Stock. Even after losing three tenths off the indexes...I'll bet it'll still take -0.900 to make the field this year!! (I guess that was more of a statement, than question)

THE LEGEND 04-06-2010 01:27 PM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
Stock is BRacket racing with rules. and if you think it's not the same that would explain why you don't win.
Chip Johnson

Jack McCarthy 04-06-2010 01:54 PM

Re: Should Indy be an All Run Field in Stock?
 
billy...
the only true question was left off the poll because the starter of the thread cant win class or qualify therefore that wasnt an option...

i will never race indy again unless they return to true class competition...
im not whining here, and my car might race and it will qualify (at least until 128 cj's or dp's show up), but that was one rule too damn many to be enhanced for me.

the captain


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