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Daryl,
You are correct, tribute cars were not the thing back then. However Jimi indicated that one of Charle's relatives had owned your car and they could have said "hey let's make this thing look like uncle Charle's car". Ok I'll quit speculating. :)

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Thanx M68
message left with Strongray67 on utube. Just gotta wait for hopefully a return
Yup, it was probably quicker to convert those pictures than typing your description on how to.
So here they are. Never seen shots of my car when Lou Vignonia commisioned Paul Pittman to strip & paint it white. According to Paul, these were taken in 1985

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...manMay1985.jpg

I think I'm seeing something red inside the trunk. Maybe a fender or door? also look around the trunk keyhole, there seems to be some red there also.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...nMay1985-1.jpg

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OK This is the information I have been able to compile on Wild Fire through different sources

-Tim Wing purchased the car new through Town & Country Dodge in Farmington,MI. He picked it up from Chrysler. Car is an auto
-Bob Alton partnered with Tim on it
-First paint was Blue & Silver
-Repainted in 69. Silver was masked over & blue was repainted to red by Findley Jackson
-One of the engines was a Ramcharger built mill
-Sold in 1970? to Jack Schneider from Canton, Ohio. Don't know if this was the owner at the time the video was made of it.
-It then sold again to someone out east to someone that owned a Sunoco Station.Supposidly ran the car out of Cecil County Raceways.
- It then kind of vanishes.

There is rumour that Bruce Meiuls (from Rod Shop Dodge fame) partnered up with Larry Morgan & purchased a red & silver Hemi Dart. It was disassembled.
-Supposidly Carol Fink from Finks Used Cars purchased it & is still owned by him today.

Is it the same car??? I don't know. But I'm pretty sure that Wild Fire is not in my shop. What leads me to believe that??? There is a center hood pin that was installed at the center rear side of the hood. I have looked very close at mine, even on the backside with mirrors, & I can't find any traces of that hole being repaired on my car.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...FireEngine.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...FirstPaint.jpg

Next????????

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Here are some of the things that I noticed right off the bat on this L023 that you might be able to compare with other old photos in some drag newspapers or magazines...

- Has Cragar Super Tricks with the Formula One Super Stock tires on the front.

- Looks like an aftermarket trans cooler up front.

- The three point roll bar is clear as day, the drivers seat is not an original piece and missing passenger seat.

- It doesn't seem to have the long rear shackles on it.

- Has the four hood pins on the original truck lid, but no holes visible of it ever being drilled for a rear trim panel.

- And yes it does seem to have red paint in those areas mentioned.


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Liteweight, the only other Red & Silver L023 that I can think of was the "Cookie Duster" Hemi Dart...but I don't recall what type of transmission it had.

(also see if you can post some of those other small pdf file photos that you have of other L023's from your earlier posts)

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These are the only 2 pictures I have of Cookie Duster. They weren't PDF, just saved as, from ebay auction & ????. I tryed resizing, but they just lose they're clarity.Anyone ???
If you look at the C piller on the first picture it looks like it has a SS/B designation.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ttachment2.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...edusterssb.jpg

Welcome to my nightmare

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There's a guy on ebay that sells old race photos , he may have a duplicate of the first one...

And that last photo of the Cookie Duster is a Bill Truby photo...there has to be a larger original one of it out there somewhere, anyone.


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Any possibility there was a twin(not a tribute) Wildfire Dart? (or any other that might be yours)

Overbooked pros used duplicate painted cars with other drivers from time to time.

There was only one Ronnie Sox but there were several "Sox&Martin" cars on the tracks.

Just wondering.

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Just a clarification Daryl that may help in tracing your car's past, am I correct in stating that prior to 1985 the car was tubbed and the narrow Dana axle installed on relocated springs? The fact that the trunk lid is held down with pins indicates the removal of the hinges/torsion springs when the stock wheel houses were removed. It is interesting that such a simple thing as an extra hood pin could be such a positive indentification point. I can't imagine anyone but the most fussy restorer even trying to repair that hole in the cowl, there would be no point to fill it, so I am convinced that your conclusion about WildFire is correct. I would still like to know what happened to that car, but that is secondary to your quest for the history of your car.

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Charlie
Possible, but not likely. As J Schiels has previously posted Tim & Bob were a small race team with very little backing.They were mechanics in the Town & Country Dodge dealership. When I spoke with Tim, he didn't mention a second car.
A second car probably isn't likely

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