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Michael Kilduff 01-21-2013 10:16 PM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
32 car field will be better imo, helps reduce the possibility of one racer getting to the top of the hill without getting dinged via CIC....one guy could have an opponet break and get a couple of red lights from others and get to the final while keeping his/her index intact in a 4 round race. More rounds may equate to more interesting semis and finals.

It might be a good idea to start a thread for the sole purpose of guaging how many people are going to enter this race. I'm thinking this will very likely be a 'woodstock' moment.


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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 366032)
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We continue to work on the finer details of the event. I had the opportunity to talk to a number of the people at the Ohio Valley S/SS banquet this weekend. Great crowd, great people!

The last major post on the topic, I had discussed running a 'King of the Hill' Quick 16 CIC race involving Class winners on Saturday. Racers and sponsors have both expressed an interest in making that a Quick 32. The more I've studied the format, it becomes apparent that it's a lot to get done in two days. That's fine, unless you have issues with weather, oildowns, etc. Adding Friday track rental to the mix will be a financial burden, but it will also give us some wiggle room on the schedule if needed. We will still have qualifying runs on Saturday, so people are not forced to be there earlier if they can't make it.

Friday - Qualifying, Quick 32 Stock, Quick 32 Super Stock, $5K No-Box
Saturday - Qualifying, Class Eliminations, $5K No-Box
Sunday - $5K Stock, $5K Super Stock, $5K No-Box

The Quick 32 CIC races on Friday will be free entry, with the purses sponsor-supported. Any money donated specifically to the Quick 32 programs will go 100% to the racers. To kick things off, Sloan Racing Engines has committed $500. Any business or individual that would like to add to the pot, you can post or PM me here, or e-mail beard@staginglight.com. Please write "Class Nationals" in the subject line. Title Rights position on each Quick 32 as well as Class Eliminations will also be available.

Doyle Evans 01-21-2013 11:05 PM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
Good luck and hope to be there.

Btw, 25000 posts, what does that tell you?

Doyle

Doyle Evans 01-21-2013 11:10 PM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
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Originally Posted by Doyle Evans (Post 366116)
Good luck and hope to be there.

Btw, 25000 posts, what does that tell you?

Doyle

I meant 25000 VIEWS !

Michael Beard 01-21-2013 11:10 PM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
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32 car field will be better imo, helps reduce the possibility of one racer getting to the top of the hill without getting dinged via CIC....one guy could have an opponet break and get a couple of red lights from others and get to the final while keeping his/her index intact in a 4 round race. More rounds may equate to more interesting semis and finals.
Correct. Considered that as well.

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It might be a good idea to start a thread for the sole purpose of guaging how many people are going to enter this race. I'm thinking this will very likely be a 'woodstock' moment.
That's what this thread was. Having an online attendance poll is not going to get you anywhere near an accurate count as there are way too many people that don't participate here. We're past that, and committed to the event. I think reasonable expectations are for low side 90 Stock and 80 Super Stock, and home run territory being 140 Stock and 125 Super Stock. I've often described the U.S. Class Nationals as a woodstock moment. We will do our very best to produce a great and memorable event for you, one that we hope will be an annual one.

Andrew Hill 01-21-2013 11:47 PM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
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Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 366118)
home run territory being 140 Stock and 125 Super Stock
These numbers definitely seem attainable given the location and dates of this awesome race. I'll be there, and I'd love to see it happen!

boostedf22c 01-22-2013 12:40 AM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
What's the Quick 32 race about?

Is it ran like comp?

Sorry if this has been covered before.

Mike Carr 01-22-2013 10:30 AM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
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Originally Posted by boostedf22c (Post 366126)
What's the Quick 32 race about?

Is it ran like comp?

Sorry if this has been covered before.
Carey, I'm not sure how Michael has it planned.

At the US Class Nat'ls in 2001, yes, it was run like Comp. Quickest 32 qualifiers, handicapped off the Class Index (like Comp), no breakout, first one there wins. There was no CIC (no penalty for running so-far under). The #1 and 2 qualifiers made it to the final in each Class. 1 beat 2 in Stock, 2 beat 1 in S/S because of the 6 pm curfew and the short cool-down time between rounds hurt Rich Oakes (he had four tenths on the field in his SS/DS car, but the car bogged in the final from too much heat...was spitting antifreeze out on the fender).

Using old Indexes (A/SA 11.30 instead of 11.00), a good CIC point to use would probably be -1.00 under. So if an A/SA wins round 1 going 10.200, their Index is now 11.20 (down from 11.30) for round 2, and so on. This will help level the playing field somewhat (look at the CIC race in Belle Rose every year) and keep the one or two super-fast cars from dominating.

Michael Beard 01-22-2013 10:53 AM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
Yes, the Quick 32 would be a Comp-style CIC race (handicapped start off the class indexes, first to the finish wins, go faster than the CIC trigger and your index is adjusted down by the difference for the rest of the Quick 32 race. Indexes return to normal for Qualifying, Class, and Sunday's main event). The CIC trigger is to be determined. Need to do a little "playtesting" to see what would work the best. We will be using what is roughly the old NHRA indexes (index +.30). I can probably put together a spreadsheet for testing a given pair of cars, and go through a mock-eliminations to see how it pans out, to see if the trigger should be -1.00, -1.25, or somewhere inbetween.

boostedf22c 01-23-2013 03:04 PM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
Sounds like fun!

I would imagine we can run all out with no permanent penalties? :)

Mike Carr 01-23-2013 03:12 PM
Re: Class Nationals event planning
 
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Originally Posted by boostedf22c (Post 366317)
Sounds like fun!

I would imagine we can run all out with no permanent penalties? :)
Yes Carey. It is an unsanctioned race, like the original Class Nationals (though with scales, heads-up runs and stuff). No AHFGS, horsepower penalties or anything like that. Just the CIC Index reductions in Eliminations of the Q-32. If you want to run two seconds under, go for it. Just wait til the final of the CIC Race to do it (first round would be a killer). :)


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