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Randall -
Maybe you were thinking about Bob Glidden and the Pinto?!? The Pinto was definitely more aerodynamic backwards than forward. Buddy Ingersoll repeated the test several years later with the turbo'ed car. I don't think you could make a Gremlin aerodynamic with a Sawzall.

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Randall,if I'm not mistaken was that they took Wally's engine out of the gremlin and ran it in Maskins car.It supposedly went .15 quicker and 5 mph faster.Also Wally blew out a few back windows at about 149 mph.I've had people tell me about the running backwards thing over the years.
I finally got to speak to Wally last year at the York Reunion and got his autograph for the glove box of my car.A really nice man to speak to,and he is proud of what he accomplished with AMC.On the other hand I've heard that (second hand info)Maskins won't give the time of day to anyone approaching him in conversation about AMCs.
I guess us AMC guys live in a time warp.

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Paul
Troxel had a sponsor I thing it was lubik olds he was from PA.

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I remember reading a road test of a Olds 442 wagon. Thier biggest complaint was the vent windows hit the sport mirrors before the were open far enough to do much good. I think the car had AC anyway.

I wanted to build one too. In the late 70s I had an extra W-25 hood for a 71-72. A guy in town that had a repair shop/used car lot had a 71 vista cruiser. Blue and woodgrain,455 two barrell. Wouldn't sell it, it was a cheap car his girls could go out to the beach and haul thier stuff with. A couple of weeks later they crashed it. Frame rails were buckled and on the ground at the cowl. Didn't come accoss another one and sold the hood.

I do have a 1965 F-85 Wagon. I think 784 produced going by memory. No vista cruiser skylights. 330 2 barrell, turbine 300 with switch pitch, And posi. Maybe would make a stocker?

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Dennis,
Lubik Olds was in Bordentown, NJ. Just south of Trenton, and right on the border of PA.
I think it was called the "Troxell Vista Bruiser". In 73', the K/SA cars were running 13.70's in the 'Pure Stock Era Class'.
In SS/NA in 72'/73'/74', the wagon with the 455 W-30 was a pretty good combination.
Power windows, with the little hand-crank for the vent window! NICE!!
Paul

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71 check it out:cool:

http://www.amazingmusclecars.com/HUR...hurst_cars.php

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blackjack,
I posted some info earlier on the 70 Grand Prix SSJ. Really a
Lite-Weight Odd-Ball, only 3900lbs. But with the 4-speed and 3.42 posi
may have been the quickest of the bunch in the quarter-mile. 15.50's.

One-More-Beast; 1958 Chrysler 300-D, with a 392 Hemi, with EFI
(fuel injection). Rated at 390 HP. A land-barge at 4475 lbs.
1/4 mile = 16.00's @ 85mph.
A Whale-Sail-Tail.
Paul

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How about a 1959 Mercury 2 door sedan with a 430 with 3 2 barrels rated at 400 HP. I have seen some video & a magazine article on a green example of this model, which ran low 14`s at the Pure Stock Musclecar Drags a couple of years ago.

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Rory,
I would think the 59' Mercury maybe the "King" in the pre-60' era.
Not sure on the "King" of the pre-70' era.
But a nice ODD-BALL Tons-Of-Steel Match Race for 1970-and-later cars.
1970 Pontiad Grand Prix SSJ, 455/370HP H.O. (M-21 4-speed)
versus
1970 Plymouth Sport Fury GT, 440/390 Six-Barrell (Torque-Flite)
Not sure who wins the Best-of-3 Match Race, but the loser gets towed
to a scrap-metal/junkyard and comes back as (2) Toyota Corolla's.
Paul

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DR289,
On a 'Lite-Weight Odd-Ball',
1965 Ford Falcon (Sedan/Post Car). Only 8 produced, Canadien cars only. 289/271HP ("K" Code or possibly "992 Code").
With 4-speed transmissions and traction-lock rear.
Damn things ran in B/Stock in 65'. Must have 'ripped' up some
'Heinys' up there in Ontario. Only 2600 lbs. and some change.
Dead-on 13.00's, must have grabbed a few GTO Tiger Tails!
PJC