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hemidart3 04-25-2012 09:04 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
asking this because i can't tell from the above pictures but is the hole in the firewall for the brake rod to the offset master cylinder modified in these pictures? previous pictures i have seen the hole is hogged out on the left side and i had to do that on my clone. dave

Liteweight 04-25-2012 09:59 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
HM --- The black paint that is evident on the door jambs could either be the original paint that Chrysler put on in 68 or could it be the black that the car was POSSIBLY painted while it was in Mt. Kisco?????.
I am really glad they took the incentive to tape up that original door sticker. You look at it today, it doesn't really fit the condition with the rest of the car because it looks old & a little beat up. But I'd rather have the original on there looking like that rather than a shiney new decal any day. For those that don't know what this decal says:

"This vehicle was not manufactured for use on public roads, streets, or highways, and as such does not conform to motor vehicle safety standards".

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/.../DoorDecal.jpg

For the past while, I've been wondering if I should post the pictures on the net for all the world to see of the restoration of my car. I decided to do it, because I've got nothing to hide with this car, & it's really cool that someone went to this extreme back in the 80's to restore a car. I'd even go out on a limb & say it's probably the first Hurst car to go through something like this, as they just didn't have much of a following back then. Very few people had interest in these things, and for the most part just saw them as beat up old race cars of no real significance. They had a very small following back then, but for those of us that did see they were something out of the norm, it's what I call pure dedication to these old war horses. It's this dedicatilon from people such as Tim Hennessey that "pioneered" the returned interest of these cars.
I'm going to be posting pictures of the complete restoration process this car went through when Tim Hennessey owned it in the 80's. These have never been on the internet before. Maybe they'll help someone in the future.

liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0006.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0007.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0008.jpg

Liteweight 04-25-2012 11:31 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hemidart3 (Post 323268)
asking this because i can't tell from the above pictures but is the hole in the firewall for the brake rod to the offset master cylinder modified in these pictures? previous pictures i have seen the hole is hogged out on the left side and i had to do that on my clone. dave

I don't believe they are cut out or modified. I checked on the old pix I have & don't see any mods to the cutout either. Maybe, the original style of offset does not have as much offset as the current available reproductions??? I'm only quessing tho

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...oorpan1985.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...rpan-11985.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0025.jpg

liteweight

Hemi Moose 04-25-2012 12:31 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
You know I was wondering about this for awhile now, is it me or am I seeing things...in some of the old photos I'm seeing splashes of a blueish - greenish color by the door decal, splashed on the side of the dash, on the door jamb by the door stricker etc, or maybe it could be just primer...it could be that the photo's are just old and the color is off, but it sure looks like a different color to me in some of those shots, because I see traces of blueish - greenish spots and also some red - brown under that black paint, I'm just sayin'...also I don't know if I mentioned this before but have you ever tried chipping off the old paint off the rocker seam lip that hangs down, where the floor pan meets...any old paint is usually caked on there pretty good if it hasn't been blasted already, and judging by the old photos it looks like the rocker panels weren't touched.

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0001.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/.../DoorDecal.jpg

Liteweight 04-25-2012 02:22 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Good ideas, but I don't believe there was any of the old paint left, don't know for sure tho, & I just wouldn't be able to start scratching around on this thing looking for old paint. The paint on it today, looks almost as good as it did when it was painted in 1986. You'll see why I don't want to start scratching on this thing in the next few posts.
HM, the blueish green colors your seeing is not your eyes,but it's not the true colors either. They're from the old Kodak slides that I converted.

"Liteweight,
Nice shots of the restoration process on the '68 Hemi Dart...I see lots of sand still located on the floor boards, and also see that they didn't blast the black paint off the side of the firewall bulkhead and door jam by the door striker...and that he also taped off the Chrysler door decal stating this vehicle does not conform to public highways...but I do have one question though, so when you do find out the origins of your Hemi Dart, will you repaint it to it's original race paint colors. - HM."

Almost forgot to answer that. Not all the original paint schemes are something that I'd remove this paint for tho. You gotta admit there were some bad ones. I hope I'm given that choice. I quess, I'll have to see IF that opportunity is ever presented to me

liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0009.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0010.jpg

Charlie A 04-25-2012 10:43 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Can't wait to see this evolution!!!!!!

Liteweight 04-26-2012 10:12 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Not sure if anyone took notice, but check out the quality of the install of those inner wheel tubs. They sit flush with the frame rails & allow for operational trunk hinges..These will now accomodate a 14X32, easy, without moving frame rails & still retain the "factory" appearance in the trunk. It's a look these cars just have, that I believe puts the nasty into the term attitude.

liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0010.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...l/IMG_0012.jpg

Liteweight 04-26-2012 11:06 AM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marfen (Post 323081)
Where the LO23 and BO29 engines painted Street Hemi Orange or the lighter Race Hemi Orange originally?

Dave
I believe the 64,65 cars were race orange, & the 68 cars were street orange.


I'm going to repost this decal picture again, in hopes of someone that'll respond.
My current plan to this search is to locate the track in the NED that actually held this particular championship. The location is probably in an old National Dragster, Popular Hot Rodding, Hot Rod magazine,etc,etc.. There could be a picture, or even a name attached to the driver of this 68 Hemi Dart. Not sure but don't think there were alot of these cars that competed in a bracket race back then with hemi's still in them. I know this one did, because the original K member was still in the car when Hennessey purchased it in 85.
I would REALLY appreciate if someone could have a look at their old collections from 1977

liteweight
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...acingdecal.jpg

Hemi Moose 04-26-2012 01:22 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 323508)
I'm going to repost this decal picture again, in hopes of someone that'll respond.
My current plan to this search is to locate the track in the NED that actually held this particular championship. The location is probably in an old National Dragster, Popular Hot Rodding, Hot Rod magazine,etc,etc.. There could be a picture, or even a name attached to the driver of this 68 Hemi Dart. Not sure but don't think there were alot of these cars that competed in a bracket race back then with hemi's still in them. I know this one did, because the original K member was still in the car when Hennessey purchased it in 85.
I would REALLY appreciate if someone could have a look at their old collections from 1977

liteweight
http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...acingdecal.jpg

Yeah it would be nice if someone could look through their old National Dragsters and spot a old photo or find some additional info about the car...maybe repost that pic in the regular forums and ask if anyone remembers seeing this car racing in division 1, (a NED 1 thread)...also I was thinking isn't Bob Fry from that division, he's a walking dictionary, it's a worth a shot.

marfen 04-26-2012 05:56 PM

Re: Original hemi dart information
 
Daryl, I wonder if that quarter window with the decal was plexi , thin corning or regular quarter glass. thx for the headsup on engine paint pal!


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