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oldskool 01-05-2020 02:08 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by coolcanman (Post 605502)
62 tripower 389 318hp was defactored to 275hp. As for ss to gt nothing has to change but the gt cars at same hp to weight index is .05 faster most guys do it to avoid heads up runs

Thanks for that. So, that means that any SS car can just say they wanna run GT, instead of regular SS, and that's all there is to it ?

oldskool 01-05-2020 02:11 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 605505)
Bob Bales used to run a older Pontiac Firebird with a 455 Pontiac engine also

OK. Any idea aprox what was he last year in which he ran a Pontiac engine, so I can try to look up some of his results ?

coolcanman 01-05-2020 03:43 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
Bales ran sd 73 bird way back in the day div 7 chino California i think his trunk blew off in the pits one don't know the reason why 🤪🤫

MR DERBY CITY 01-05-2020 04:47 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by coolcanman (Post 605534)
Bales ran sd 73 bird way back in the day div 7 chino California i think his trunk blew off in the pits one don't know the reason why 🤪🤫

Well, since you brought it up.....Bob Bales was quite the colorful character of D -7....not sure If it was the deck lid or back glass that blew out of the car....urban myth sez there was some trickery involved BUT ,,,,we ll leave that for another thread......

gmeyer 01-05-2020 07:01 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by oldskool (Post 605493)
Last pic I have is from '19 US Nats. He's running SS/MA.

Wonder what you'd have do to his car to run GT, without makin any engine changes ?

I know very little about GT rules.

Can you just tech in as a GT car, even tho you've made no changes ?

Yes Most SS cars can entry both SS or GT with no changes
greg

Don Kennedy 01-05-2020 07:46 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by oldskool (Post 605528)
OK. Any idea aprox what twas he last year in which he ran a Pontiac engine, so I can try to look up some of his results ?

PI think the 70s

oldskool 01-05-2020 08:00 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 605560)
PI think the 70s

So that was not a GT car ?

oldskool 01-05-2020 08:06 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by gmeyer (Post 605554)
Yes Most SS cars can entry both SS or GT with no changes
greg

Thanks ! I had no idea. Just assumed that SOME change would have to be made, even if it was a very small one.

oldskool 01-05-2020 08:26 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
OK, we've mentioned most of the Pontiac powered GT cars that were recently active.

Now I wanna see if you guys can come up with some names of some of the first guys to do it. I'm talkin about purpose built GT cars, not just those that choose to run GT, with their reg SS car.

We'll assume that Don Kennedy was among the 1st. Who else ? Pics & other info would be helpful.

Just wondering if some were thinkin about building one, but waiting to see how other guys did, running a GT car.

Who's 3rd gen GT car was featured in one of the Angeles & McCarthy Pontiac books ? When I saw how they used 2nd gen motor mounts, I decided to build a 3rd gen for a bracket car, back in '07. I had a book, but gave it to somebody else. Now that I think about it, That may have been a street car, since most use plates to mount the engine.

That brings up a SS question. Have motor plates always been legal in SS ? If not, what year were plates made legal ?

I'll go ahead & ask another dummy question here. I see that most SS Pontiacs now run a dist aprox where the water pump is, on stock Pontiac V8 engines. Noticed in the Art Peterson video, that he still runs the dist in the normal location. So, what exactly are these front mounted dist called ? Who makes 'em for Pontiac V8's ? And what are the advantages of that type ?

coolcanman 01-05-2020 10:51 PM

Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers
 
I'm a dummy let me answer that question it's called a cam driven distributor made by jesel or MSD originally developed for comp cars with sheet metal intakes according to Bob Kaiser so the back 4 ports could match the front ports by moving intake back on the gt cars that didn't come with pont eng the dist sits further back in car in my 4th gen under windshield


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