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grncpe 01-03-2016 08:11 PM
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This was my first year racing in ss. The first thing I don't understand is the fact that you have to beg for anything. Automatic factoring ? Why can't the NHRA mystery computer give hp back at the end of a year? They can doll it out, I would think if there is a combo out there RUNNING that the computer could then give some back. Just thinking out loud. I never went 850 under so it doesn't matter. Just a thought. I should have begged for some since I can't run 1 under or in some cases 1.30 or faster under like some run & nothing happens when they fender you. Great racing there....

Tony Janes 01-03-2016 09:20 PM
Re: Horsepowers
 
It does if you qualify.

Sean Cour 01-04-2016 12:37 AM
Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 492092)
This was my first year racing in ss. The first thing I don't understand is the fact that you have to beg for anything. Automatic factoring ? Why can't the NHRA mystery computer give hp back at the end of a year? They can doll it out, I would think if there is a combo out there RUNNING that the computer could then give some back. Just thinking out loud. I never went 850 under so it doesn't matter. Just a thought. I should have begged for some since I can't run 1 under or in some cases 1.30 or faster under like some run & nothing happens when they fender you. Great racing there....
Tommy, why would you need horsepower off your combination? Wasn't there an identical combination as yours that could have run a 1.15 under et in the class final of SS/JA? If he can do it, doesn't that give you the indication that the potential of your combination is very good?

grncpe 01-04-2016 01:18 AM
Re: Horsepowers
 
He does not have the same combo I have. He has a Holley carb, I have a avs. Should I change carbs & follow suit? Or stick on my own & work on what I have? I am surprised that you would bring this up though.VIOLATOR! Lol

Sean Cour 01-04-2016 01:26 AM
Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 492117)
He does not have the same combo I have. He has a Holley carb, I have a avs. Should I change carbs & follow suit? Or stick on my own & work on what I have? I am surprised that you would bring this up though.VIOLATOR! Lol
Ok, well that must be one hell of a Holley! Lol

grncpe 01-04-2016 01:36 AM
Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 492118)
Ok, well that must be one hell of a Holley! Lol
That's my point. It is almost 100cfm more. Why am I factored the same? It's a different combo. That would be like factoring the lt1 & l98 and all the fi 350 combos together right? I don't see where this an even playing field. I'm not mad at anyone, I don't want it taken the wrong way. That's why I ask questions. IF the NHRA took incremental times into consideration and actually looked at the data they have it would help I think to straighten out the problems with the factoring system.

Sean Cour 01-04-2016 02:20 AM
Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 492119)
That's my point. It is almost 100cfm more. Why am I factored the same? It's a different combo. That would be like factoring the lt1 & l98 and all the fi 350 combos together right? I don't see where this an even playing field. I'm not mad at anyone, I don't want it taken the wrong way. That's why I ask questions. IF the NHRA took incremental times into consideration and actually looked at the data they have it would help I think to straighten out the problems with the factoring system.
Tommy, you're factored the same because at one time or another, someone with your combo was fast. I'm not saying it's a level playing field, but the rules are set, and meant to be manipulated within the current written state.

Paul Precht 01-04-2016 03:12 AM
Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 492119)
That's my point. It is almost 100cfm more. Why am I factored the same? It's a different combo. That would be like factoring the lt1 & l98 and all the fi 350 combos together right? I don't see where this an even playing field. I'm not mad at anyone, I don't want it taken the wrong way. That's why I ask questions. IF the NHRA took incremental times into consideration and actually looked at the data they have it would help I think to straighten out the problems with the factoring system.
Hi Tommy, you're right on with your numbers. The 383 AVS I have flows right at 635 cfm and the 383 Holley 6191 I have is 724 cfm both done on my bench.

Ed Wright 01-04-2016 01:15 PM
Re: Horsepowers
 
If there are both factored the same, why would you not run the Holley?

Greg Hill 01-04-2016 01:22 PM
Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 492144)
If there are both factored the same, why would you not run the Holley?
Inquiring minds want to know.😊


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