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Alan Roehrich 10-28-2010 09:25 PM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 218887)
Alan,deep staging is another thing.That being said,I was against killing the deep staging,as was Toby.I learned fast that it really wasn't necessary.I didn't need it to screw up on the lights:>):>).It did lessen the game playing though,which was a good thing.
Come on Alan,a lot of guys build fast cars to feed their egos.

Ed,
I do not pretend to know whether people build fast cars to feed their egos. I know what I like, I know what the people I race with like. They like fast cars (actually, they're in love with 69 Camaros, but that's another story). If people build fast cars to feed their ego, I neither know nor care. You like your car, it makes you happy. That's fine with me. Everyone should race what makes them happy. Outside of the bogus factors and that sort of thing, I don't see why people get so hung up on what other people race.

Bimbo Jones 10-29-2010 09:51 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
Deuces Wild is right, I'm not sure how this thread evolved into a worst red light debate but it is something I whish they try in bracket racing as a test. As far as rules not changing in the past 45 years. Before Stock became a mostly shoe polish eliminator many racers had extra cars to put their drive train in as NHRA played with the HP ratings. Or saw their combo become obsolete over night because some guy in another division bombed the index. Yeah we've seen more changes in the past 45 years than most want to recall and have made Stock into what is more like Super Stock was when I first got envolved with drag racing. But I still think it's the best eliminator out there. Ed you summerized the Pro/Cons debate real well. So save us the trouble of reading this entire thread to find out what 2011 rule changes have been mentioned so far and let's get this thread back on track.

Chad Rhodes 10-29-2010 09:58 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
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Originally Posted by Bimbo Jones (Post 218973)
Deuces Wild is right, I'm not sure how this thread evolved into a worst red light debate but it is something I whish they try in bracket racing as a test. As far as rules not changing in the past 45 years. Before Stock became a mostly shoe polish eliminator many racers had extra cars to put their drive train in as NHRA played with the HP ratings. Or saw their combo become obsolete over night because some guy in another division bombed the index. Yeah we've seen more changes in the past 45 years than most want to recall and have made Stock into what is more like Super Stock was when I first got envolved with drag racing. But I still think it's the best eliminator out there. Ed you summerized the Pro/Cons debate real well. So save us the trouble of reading this entire thread to find out what 2011 rule changes have been mentioned so far and let's get this thread back on track.

you are absolutely right, and I apologize for helping get it off topic. For the record, I'm not necissarily against a WORST red light rule, I am however against using stock and SS as the test bed for it. That's the last I have to say about it. back to the topic at hand.

art leong 10-29-2010 10:25 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
I have one gripe about being the slower car.
My neck hurts.
Does anyone realize how fast I have to spin my head when a car goes by me 55 to 60 mph faster than me? It worst than watching a Nascar race. It's like a tennis match on steroids.

LOL LOL

Ed Wright 10-29-2010 10:28 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
Chad, the approved sbc Bow Tie block part numbers are at the top of the sbc approved rod list, the others may be listed with the rods also.

Eric Merryfield 10-29-2010 10:40 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 218981)
I have one gripe about being the slower car.
My neck hurts.
Does anyone realize how fast I have to spin my head when a car goes by me 55 to 60 mph faster than me? It worst than watching a Nascar race. It's like a tennis match on steroids.

LOL LOL

I will be back to doing that again this season when I play in Super Stock and with my slow stocker. What you need is the biggest rearview mirror you can find that is legal to your year and of course a nice functioning side mirror. If you get enough of a head start, you can rate their wheelie in your rearview. I like the finish line drama of, will I get there, can he catch me, etc.

Is the burnout time new in the rulebook?

Super
Stock, Stock, Super Gas, and Super Street drivers may not cross the starting line on
any burnout; stationary burnout limit is five seconds.

I have been restraining myself, trying to cut back, but 5 seconds seems pretty short. Burnouts are part of the fun and the "show" for the fans....

Eric

art leong 10-29-2010 10:46 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Merryfield (Post 218988)
I will be back to doing that again this season when I play in Super Stock and with my slow stocker. What you need is the biggest rearview mirror you can find that is legal to your year and of course a nice functioning side mirror. If you get enough of a head start, you can rate their wheelie in your rearview. I like the finish line drama of, will I get there, can he catch me, etc.

Is the burnout time new in the rulebook?

Super
Stock, Stock, Super Gas, and Super Street drivers may not cross the starting line on
any burnout; stationary burnout limit is five seconds.

I have been restraining myself, trying to cut back, but 5 seconds seems pretty short. Burnouts are part of the fun and the "show" for the fans....

Eric

Eric I go 106 or 107 mph on a good day, in race mode. I'm running cars that go over 160 mph. You can't believe how fast they go by me. I learned lifting is not an option I just stab the brake a bit.
At the 1000' mark they look like a fly turd on my mirror.

PS I'm not really gripping here just kidding. They can not judge how quick they are closing on me. If they lift when they catch me it's to late.

treessavoy 10-29-2010 11:32 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
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Originally Posted by Ron Zenzen 5402 (Post 218661)
Lets see, three orign chev tri-powers sitting on the shelf. What can we build???


Nothing but 348's

JimR

treessavoy 10-29-2010 11:44 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 218815)
Jim,when you started in 1902 did you ever get to meet Henry Ford?:>):>):>)Did they have Firestone slicks then?

You're right about Nascar sanction at Atco.I have a weekly paper from Atco from about 1965 with the Nascar logo at the top of the page.

Ed,

Actually he was my main sponsor. The car ran in a/s at 36 hp but once the cars started running faster than 30 sec. in the 1/4 I had to quit.......too fast for me!

I ran the first set of Casler cheaters on the car. Never won a race, those Oldsmobiles always caught me at the big end, Hell, they would run 45mph.

I was only 50 then.

JimR

treessavoy 10-29-2010 11:46 AM

Re: 2011 Stock/Super Stock Rule Changes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 218832)
Jim,
You started in 1902?

Yeah, and I was only 50 at the time!

JimR


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